LLM System Design Interview, issue 4, Nov 5, 2025
The Gradient Highway
ML Engineer interview at Google, and the interviewer asks:
“Your team is struggling with training instability and exploding gradients in a new 100B+ model. The original ‘Attention Is All You Need’ paper used post-norm with learning rate warm-up. Why is that a bad idea for deep models, and what’s the one simple architectural change that solves this?”
Don’t say: “Post-norm is just less stable, so you need a learning rate warm-up to prevent the gradients from exploding at the start. The fix is to use pre-norm.”
Why post-norm Transformers break at scale - and how one architectural swap enables stable training for 100B-parameter models.
The full answer, with the mechanism and the arithmetic, is for paid subscribers on Substack.